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Ann on Ammons Family

Sat, 10 Jul 2010 20:23:57 +0000

Hello - since I also have relatives from that area of S.C., (Cook family) I was interested in your posting. You probably already know that you can go to the South Carolina Archives search page and find a lot of online information, and the ones they don't have printed out in full can be ordered. There is a lot of Ammons information there, including Joshua Ammons' will with his children and granddaughter mentioned by name. His Revolutionary War service, etc. Also a William Grice left all his estate to Thomas Ammons, so no doubt he was a close relative. Hope this helps you, if you don't already have all this information.

MHatcher on Ammons Family

Sun, 23 May 2010 12:52:26 +0000

Gavin,

I apologize for the delay, but your request has been forwarded to the Genealogist for review. She will try to help you the best she can.

Michelle Hatcher

Tribal Secretary

Gavin on Ammons Family

Sun, 21 Mar 2010 13:24:02 +0000

Hi my name is Gavin Roberson and I'm a descendant of the Ammons family that was in the Edgecombe and Robeson County Areas of N.C. in the mid 1700's and in the Marlboro, Dillon, and Marion County areas in the late 1700's and early 1800's. Myself and other family members have done a lot of research on our Ammons family and strongly believe that we connections to various tribes in N.C. and S.C. My 5th Grt Grandfather was Thomas Ammons and it is stated that he was born near Torhunta(an Indian farming Community) around 1749. His wife's name was Bertha(Last Name Unknown). His Brother was Joshua Ammons who was married to Francis Parker and they had another brother named John. Their Father was John Jacob Ammons of the Old Edgecombe N.C. Area. John Jacob died in 1761 in the Old Edgecombe Co area. Their mother's name is believed to be Barbara or Mary(I have found two names, Last Name Unknown). Thomas, Joshua and John all three migrated down to Robeson County, N.C. and then down to the Marlboro, Dillon, and Marion County, S.C. areas. My family is mentioned in the Book by Steven Pony Hill, Strangers in Their own Land, S.C. State Indian Tribes. Thomas and Joshua both died in Marlboro County, S.C. Some of their children stayed in this area of S.C. and others migrated to other areas of the South. Many of Thomas Ammons' children migrated to Western N.C. near the Cherokee. My 4th Grt Grandfather was William Ammons and he migrated to South Georgia where I was reared. We have found the Ammons name in various Tribes in N.C. and S.C. which included the Saponi, Coree/Coharie, Lumbee, Pee Dee, Cheraw and the Waccamaw. What I would like to ask is, if there is anyone within the Waccamaw Tribe that might have any information on our Ammons Indian family? Any information anyone my have would be very thankful. Gavin.

Rita Jacobs on Membership Numbers

Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:42:17 +0000

I don't have a card at all. A relative of a relative did some genology. Most of the documents we have go back to a Shadrach Jacobs that was eventually hung in fairfeild county SC. Only one branch of the family went back futher. They found some Jacobs brothers from Germany who married Indian women and showed a link to those families. I don't have the documents yet to study. Anyway when Shandrach was running from the law, he ended up in Southeast Georgia, and he left a family there. The truth is most my family is white-ish. There is a bit of this and that for color, lots of not quite white people marrying eachother. I have some Creek indian blood, but the paperwork will show she was white. The man who wanted to marry her went to Savannah, bought a dead white woman's name off a ship and then used that name and documents to marry his Indian wife. She went by that name all her life. On paper we often look as white as anybody else. I am related to some Harper's who are related to some Carvers that were not considered all white either. And on it goes with each branch of the family. I'm not applying for a card anywhere. My ancestors seem to have had a plan, to get as white as possible. My girls had blond hair and blue eyes when they were little. Success! I found this site and this other little peice of information about what kind of Indian my father's father was descended from. I identify with whoever invites me to sit and eat with them in a lunch room. All I can say for certain is I look white-ish (asian people say I have asian eyes, I have markers from native american ancestory, feet, fingers, teeth) and I can't find any asian in the family tree and everything else is certainly possible! Having a card might have stopped the dentist from filling my shovel teeth, but papa told that dentist he wasn't an Indian so go for it. To me applying for a card would probably have many of my ancestors rolling over in their graves! Papa always said he couldn't be an Indian because he had blue eyes. He told me if you say it long enough, people start to believe you. He tries for a jewish discount everytime he can though. He's a Babtist! A card would not make me more or less of anything. What you see is what you get and there really isn't any changing that. I am comfortable with how I look. My sister is darker than me. Does that make her more Indian? Maybe, but it doesn't make her any less my sister. Just be happy in your skin. A card is just a card. The number is just a number. I don't think I am enough of any one thing to merit a card anywhere anyway. I don't have to try and save anyone from themselves. I don't have to stay where I'm not welcomed. Being white-ish is fine for me, I'm not usually this social or talkative. If you've cared enough to get a card, that should say enough in itself. Some people are always seeking to be higher in the pecking order no matter where they are. Its nature. Its not admirable, but its human.

Darryl on Membership Numbers

Wed, 13 Jan 2010 12:38:39 +0000

The enrollment number is just a tracking number that appears in the tribal book. If my driver's license number is lower than yours does not make me a better driver. It means I got to the license bureau before you. Just because my enrollment number is lower or higher than yours, does not make me any better or worse of a Native American than you. It means that I was entered in the tribal rolls before you and I may be older than you. This enrollment number business is as silly as the core verses the non-core issue. As far as I am concerned, there are three ways to become a member of the tribe. The first way was to have met the requirements when the tribal roster was originally created. The second way is to be the blood born child of tribal member. The third way is to marry or be adopted by a tribal member. I view the tribal roll book as simply a record of the historical timeline of the tribe.

Doug on Webcast Posting and Editing Policy

Wed, 02 Sep 2009 01:40:47 +0000

There will be a one week delay before posting any webcasts. This means Open Meetings will be posted 2nd Friday of the Month. This is to ensure that anyone needing something edited out may in fact have enough time to tell me about it before it gets posted for all the tribe to hear.

We will only strike content from the webcast provided that a written request (e-mail, PM, hand written letter, FAX, ad nauseum) is submitted to the administrator (Doug Hatcher). This request should make plain the portion to be edited and a valid reason for doing so.

At this point, valid reasons for editing the webcast include, but not necessarily limited to:

Preventing the spread of slander. For example, If someone stood up and announced that Snuffy was a axe murderer, and the claim turned out to be false, We would strike the remark, or if necessary the relevant exchange, from the webcast.
Omitting detailed discussion of tribal strategy that could damage the tribe if the webcast fell in to the wrong hands. Waccamaw.org will not actively work against the tribe. Any explicit discussion of pending court cases (or anything along those lines) will be removed. The full exchange will be kept and posted when the time comes that its no longer potentially harmful.

All edits will be documented with the webcast. There will not be any undocumented edits. Clearly, if it were explained in detail what was omitted, it would be just as bad - if not worse - than if nothing was done, So don’t complain if the explanation is a little cryptic.

Doug on Google Groups

Tue, 09 Jun 2009 23:58:25 +0000

Are there any members who want access who need help getting in? Please post any problems here.

Doug on Tabs on the Home Page

Tue, 09 Jun 2009 16:11:45 +0000

Yeah, it's actually a filler page. I'm trying to come up with exactly how I want that page to work. Just haven't gotten to it yet.

MHatcher on Tabs on the Home Page

Tue, 09 Jun 2009 14:00:07 +0000

Clicking on the Members Only LInk at the top of the page- the items that pop up are not links. I can only get to them by clicking on them on the far right-hand side of the page under the Navigation side.

Doug on Should There be drinking after hours at the pauwau

Sat, 30 May 2009 12:55:05 +0000

Who wants to throw their two cents in?

MHatcher on People's Alliance

Tue, 28 Apr 2009 19:39:06 +0000

The People's Alliance has its own section in the image gallery. All registered users can view its content. Make sugggestions to what you would like to see and they will be considered.

Michelle

Leading Bird on What to do about this Mary Jackson thing

Thu, 26 Feb 2009 23:37:55 +0000

MickieCake said:

I think you have some good points, Doug. I like the idea of keeping (most of) the Forum public, and restricting access to sensitive information. I do feel that if we were to make ALL the information public at this point, it could absolutely hurt our court case. I think Buster is right about that.

It's a tough situation, for sure. We want to be open and honest, and to allow other Tribal members to know what's REALLY going on. But, at the same time we are essentially in a state of seige right now, and we DO have to protect our information until this goes to court.

As for what to do AFTER the litigation is finsihed, I say open it ALL up. Without the court case hanging over our heads, I think nothing should be censored, with the exception of closed meetings.

There's something none of you have considered. The site, Waccamaw.org belongs to Doug, and not the Tribe. It is at his personal discretion what he chooses to post. Doug started posting the audios of the meetings for me because I asked him to. I had been trying for many many months to get them uploaded to Waccamaw.us without success. Just because Doug has Tribal infomation on his site doesn't make it the Tribe's site.

Iris

Doug on December 2008 Village News

Sun, 04 Jan 2009 15:08:47 +0000

Download: PDF (Adobe PDF, 12MB)

Chakwaina on 2008 Pau Wau

Wed, 05 Nov 2008 15:30:14 +0000

Well, I don't know about everyone else, but I had a wonderful time at the Pau Wau.

Can we have another one in 2 months? <grin>

I can not wait until the next one.

Got to meet lots of cousins.

Made many new friends.

My body is tired in a good way.

My mind is clear.

My spirit is refreshed.

What else can one ask to walk away from Pau Wau with?

Chakwaina on Membership Numbers

Sat, 18 Oct 2008 07:14:37 +0000

Oh I agree with you 110%!

I love it when people come up tp me and ask if I am Indian and then proceed to tell me their great grandmother was a C Indian Princess!

I am too outspoken to not offer them a little education on that one.

Ask me at Pau W what I tell most when they tell me they are "Cherokee'--