June 2024 Open Meeting Summary
Tribal Open Meeting Summary 6/7/2024 held at the tribal office and via Zoom
CM’s Susan, Chris, Marion, and Glenn were present. 2C Alan served as a proxy for CM Emily. Elders Becky S, Ronnie H, Glenn T, Charles H, and Larry J were present. 2C Alan, Acting Chief Cheryl, and Chief Hatcher were present.
Members Carolyn D, Steven T, Carol H, Aaron F, Rebecca F, David Baskin, John T, Tracey G, Starla C, Lisa L, Shannon O, Sara R, Scott B, Kristin M, Coby F, Kevin D, Charles A, and Jennifer R were present.
Financial Report (as of 6/6/2024 at 3:31 pm)
General Fund: $40,272.81
Building Fund: $1816.21
Cemetery Fund: $407.00
Old Business
Online Votes
5/22: Approve May Open Meeting Summary
Susan-yes, Chris-yes, Marion-yes, Glenn-yes, 2C Alan (Emily)-yes, Robert- absent, Dalton-absent
Survey Quotes
Susan: calling them on Monday
Policy Letters
Marion: I couldn’t open them
Susan: I will try sending them individually
TN Land Sale
ACC Cheryl: no response from Greg Smith’s office
The ex-wife of Jerry Brown may still be living there & may have rights
They’ll have the TN office handle it
It may be a good idea to hold onto it because of its conservation value
We could use it as a trade for land here
A party that might be interested is the Holliday family
I think Jerry Brown would want us to benefit
Marion: I agree with the conservation part
Glenn: as far as the ex-wife, they weren’t there 3 years ago
AC Cheryl: they may have legal rights or heirs though
Chief Hatcher: there were land estates given to Jerry Brown and his wife
At his death, they were divorced and the judge didn’t give her the land in the divorce
We should call her (Donna)
Marion: or contact her lawyer
Susan: we should & explore this later
SC Thrive
Susan: I haven’t heard anything from them
Brookgreen Gardens
Susan: we have met in the last couple of weeks and they want to work with us
I asked Robin about the documents
She said there weren’t any, but there were artifacts, but we were welcome to come to view them
Documents may be stored at CCU
They’d like us to have a mini-pw there
Native Americans- they won’t want to pay fees ($14.50+)
I explained how a PW works to Robin and Teresa
Chris: we could have a JR HM/HL there
Susan: I’m not sure of the logistics
I told her it would be next year and determined by the PWs in the area
I told her I’d bring it to the Council to discuss
2C Alan: do it early in the year to not conflict with ours
Susan: I think the area by the education center, another area is by the suk, or by the river depending on the rain are good sites to do it
Susan: they want to change out our displays
AC Cheryl: there are people all over with artifacts
Chris Judge said we should have time with the community to share a display
I’m not sure Brookgreen is the ideal spot for that
Carolyn: Brookgreen has had that before & could host it
SC has an advocational site form
Fill it out and help with mapping
Susan: as for our PW, vendors don’t need a vendor license, unsure about Brookgreen
Robin would need to check in to it since it’s in a different county
Susan: I told her I’d bring it to Council to see if they want to do it
Chris: need to make a working budget
Susan: and she has a list of potential grants
Susan: she said to give her a list of people coming
I think they should just show their tribal ID card
They will buy all the materials for the suk
AC Cheryl: do they want just us on the suk?
Susan: I’ll ask her
Marion: I think I need to work on the longhouse with David H
AC Cheryl: I went to Occaneechi Village & have pictures & notes
More than just Ocanneechi were there
Maybe partner with Winyah or Santee and do an intertribal event
Susan: Wassamasaw or Edisto
AC Cheryl: I think they may be too far away
Susan: it’s good for the PW
AC Cheryl: I’m thinking the starting point to the Black River
Hold an intertribal PW
Susan: it doesn’t hurt to ask
New Business
Committee Reports
Buildings & Grounds: Glenn & Marion
Glenn: nothing to report
Marion: we need to get the plumbing done; hire a contractor
Let Chris find one to give us a quote and vote online
Austin may give us a price
We need to get the grounds ready for campers
Marion: motion to hire a contractor after getting a quote; 2C Alan (Emily) seconded
AC Cheryl: can we get a timeline on the work to be done?
Chris: he can give you that
Marion: motion amended: find someone to do the work, get the price, and let AC Cheryl or CoC Dalton put it up for a vote
Susan-yes, Chris-yes, Marion-yes, Glenn-yes, 2C Alan (Emily)-yes, Robert- absent, Dalton-absent
Grants: AC Cheryl & Michelle
Donnelley Grant: pending
Susan: they sent an honorarium payment
We had to go back & fix the budget to add WRA
It is subgranted by AR
It is specific to the mapping project, research, community involvement
We need to hold community events to gather information on old records & details
It will help towards federal recognition
Dollar A Day Fund: $1000
It was filled out
Rematriation Project
EPA Community Change Grant: put together a master plan
Expanded land area
Expand the trail to the other side of the Pee Dee River
Due on 11/21
Outside Justice: up to $40,000
Use for Fishing Day & youth projects
2C Alan: don’t forget the Methodist Church: $500
Use it for regalia and mentors
SCAC: they said they never received it even though I have a copy of the completed app
It would have been our third or fourth time getting it, which would be unlikely
Dr. Dillian: we still have some money left for the longhouse
Ask David H about the supplies needed
Newsletter: Susan
We need to get it out
I think if a person takes on the responsibility to do it, they should get it sent out too
Marion: I did it last time and would be happy to do it again
Chief Hatcher: I thought you were using M&M/.
Susan: I think the rumor was that not everyone was getting one
Glenn: I thought it was expensive
Susan: no it wasn’t
Chief Hatcher: what did M&M charge?
Marion: we’d have to look
Susan: we need to get a handle on it
If there’s a problem with it, just remove the statements (letters)
PW: AC Cheryl & Michelle
Looking for new stories of local cultural history
Fundraisers
Donuts: $0
Popcorn: $109.93
Looking for pictures of traditional suks and regalia
Working on demonstrators to finalize the flier
Chris: Glenn Morris, a flute player, will charge $200 for the weekend
CCU Archiving Projects
Welcome any new items
Files
Barbara Ingram (honorary)
Helen Griffin (honorary)
Fechers (need to verify genealogy before moving to full membership)
Michelle: are we having a meeting tomorrow?
Susan & AC Cheryl: no
Longhouse Project
Marion: David H sent a text: he won’t be here tomorrow
I will debark tomorrow
AC Cheryl: David got metal in his eye last time
Reminder: Fire Ceremony on 6/22 at 6:10 am
AC Cheryl: and on 9/21, if we get the grant, mapping and other things will happen
2C Alan: Grey Court PAIA PW on 6/8
AC Cheryl
We received a plaque from the Historic Preservation Commission
Susan Platt has been a strong advocate & has written a lot of grants
Preservation might not be a building
Their office is under the Planning & Zoning Department
AC Cheryl: motion to enter the tribal grounds' ancestral lands into the Horry County Preservation Commission Registry
Marion: what is the positive of being on the list?
AC Cheryl: the county acknowledges the land belonged to this group of people
In 1720, there was a war with the Waccamaw: history says that all Waccamaw were killed/ eradicated or went to Catawba
27 years later, there was Waccamaw, a Waccamaw village, etc…
Our land was conquested 100 years ago
Marion: if we can register it, we should fill out the application
AC Cheryl: the cemetery is on tribal land; the location would just show here
Chris & Susan: it’d best to wait until the map is done
Glenn: are there any legal implications?
AC Cheryl: it would say the county acknowledges us, but just at this location
AC Cheryl: we should pause until we have more information
Susan: do the map until we have more facts
Draft Treaty
No edits or comments
It will be voted on 6/14 by the Council of Chiefs
On the signing day, the media will be there
The copy given to the Council is not the current copy
Marion: will the signing be in Columbia?
AC Cheryl: probably
Chief Hatcher: the Catawba longhouse would be better
Chief Hatcher
The land goes all the way to the Black River
We can narrow it down for them if needed
Gene Martin passed away a couple of days ago
I give him credit for natives in this state
His nephew would like to have a memorial service on the grounds on 6/15, 11 am-3 pm
He’ll need to use tables & chairs; they set up and tear down
I asked Dalton and he said okay with no charge
The service is open to us
His ashes: Marion would decide if he could add them to the fire circle
On 6/18, there is a meeting with Congressman Russell Fry
I have asked CCU to attend with AC Cheryl
Ask him to resubmit the bill
Dr. Dillian will be in England doing research for us
AC Cheryl: CMA wants to as well
Elder nominations
Scott Beaver
Susan-yes, Chris-yes, Marion-yes, Glenn-yes, 2C Alan (Emily)-yes, Robert- absent, Dalton-absent
Oath of Office given by Chief Hatcher
Randy Wood
He has worked with us for years & wants to be a firekeeper
Marion-abstain, Glenn-abstain, 2C Alan (Emily)-abstain, Robert- absent, Dalton-absent
2C Alan: wonder if he has enough experience
Glenn: we ought to have more knowledge of the tribe and its operations
Marion: he needs more experience within the tribe; he’s done great work so far
He comes to all meetings, fires, etc…
Elders
Charles A: land in TN
Hardly none here; hold on to what you’ve got
Chief Hatcher: it’s 47 acres, unsure who goes on it
AC Cheryl: the cemetery fence needs to be done
Susan: when will it be fixed?
Glenn: I’ve been working on it with Richard T
Chief Hatcher: what are we going to do with the cemetery trustees; they don’t report here
Issues with trustees
Linda A. wants a site; I contacted the chair of the trustees and got no response
You can’t tell which site is whose
Glenn: let me talk to Glenn, Richard, and Wayne
Larry J: they set guidelines
They moved my and Nancy’s site 4 times
AC Cheryl: it can come back on us
Trustees have a fiduciary responsibility
If it’s not being done, we need to change them
The land belongs to the tribe, not the trustees
Glenn: Hilda’s daughter is liable to sue us for rights
Chief Hatcher: they did sue us
SC Cheryl: the tribe can sue the trustees for poor management
AC Cheryl: motion to move the $500 honorarium from the Donnelley grant into the grant account; Marion seconded
Susan-yes, Chris-yes, Marion-yes, Glenn-yes, 2C Alan (Emily)-yes, Robert- absent, Dalton-absent
2C Alan motioned to close the meeting; Glenn seconded.
Susan-yes, Chris-yes, Marion-yes, Glenn-yes, 2C Alan (Emily)-yes, Robert- absent, Dalton-absent
The meeting adjourned at 8:47 p.m.
Respectfully submitted by Michelle Hatcher on 6/21/2024 at 1:55 pm.
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