September 2024 Open Meeting Summary
Tribal Open Meeting Summary 9/6/2024 held at the tribal office and via Zoom
CM’s Marion, Glenn, Emily, and CoC Susan were present. 2c Alan served as a proxy for CM Chris.Elders Larry J and Scott B and Treasurer Carol H were present. Chief Hatcher and AC Cheryl were present. CM Robert arrived late.
Members Nancy J, Clayton G, Tracey G, Starla C, Jennifer R, Debbie B, Randy W, Josh W, Lisa L, Aaron F, Rebecca F, Kevin D, Steven T, Sara R, Stephen W, Betty L, and John T were present. Guests Donna B and Jimmy B were present.
Financial Report (as of 9/3/2024 at 11:17 pm)
General Fund: $40,994.21
Building Fund: $1659.17
Cemetery Fund: $447.00
Grant Fund: $2105.96
Old Business
Online Votes
8/20: approve August meeting summary with changes
Line 1: Added CM Emily, Nancy J to attendees
Changed Scott B to 2C, not Elder
Emily-yes, Marion-yes, 2C Alan (Chris)-yes, CoC Susan-yes
Survey Quotes
Marion- wait until January and try in Marion County
AC Cheryl: I just had a meeting with Lowcountry Land Trust
Collaboration between tribes
Discretionary fund for appraisals and surveys
Deadline is 9/17
Marion motioned to table this until January
CoC Susan: another engineering company joined the Chamber of Commerce; I will check to see if they can come out in January
Larry: I have a phone number for a guy in Marion County
Survey quotes tabled until January
Policy Letters
CoC Susan: I suggest putting them on hold; Michelle and I will go over them and present them to Council for approval
TN Land: Donna B and Jimmy B are present
CoC Susan: in 2014, Chief Hatcher and CoC was given land by Jerry B
Do we want to sell it or keep the land?
Emily: Keep
2C Alan: how much money would it cost to develop; sell it if it’s too high
CoC Susan: power and water are out there
Donna: it used to be a campground; a field
2C Alan: how many spots?
CoC Susan: 10-15
Jimmy: the flood tore some down
Chief Hatcher: I disagree
AC Cheryl: if they enter another’s land without an invitation, liability comes into play
Chief Hatcher: example- if there’s a pothole and someone steps into it and breaks their leg, we are liable
AC Cheryl: invite matters
Chief Hatcher: if you have anything blagrantly a trao, you’re still liable
Opinion of the judge and jurors matter
If we keep it, we need to protect ourselves
Donna: yes, as well as Jimmy, grandkids, Gaylen (spelling?)
Chief Hatcher: the only one that matters is Donna
Chief Hatcher: if anyone gets hurt on that land, we’re liable
CoC Susan: Council, what are your thoughts?
Donna: my family has lived there since 1999; I understand Chief Hatcher wants to get out of it because of insurance
Chief Hatcher: have the Elders meet to discuss it
CoC Susan: we need to talk more; discuss it online
CoC Susan: continue the discussion with the Elders and Donna
CoC Susan: the papers say “and their heirs”
AC Cheryl: it’s a conditional life estate, not a will where it transfers
Chief Hatcher: it says Jerry and Donna
CoC Susan: I looked at the deed and it says if the tribe dissolves, the land can go to the heirs
Donna: the Deed of Corrections says “heirs”
The only one who has a right to the land is Donna
AC Cheryl: we need to give them a trespassing notice
No liability by the owner for trespassers
Chief Hatcher: they were raised there
AC Cheryl: it needs to be resolved; they are not legally on the land; need an assumption of liability
AC Cheryl: they are essentially trespassing
Chief Hatcher: I think if someone gets hurt there, we’re liable
Chief Hatcher: example- they have a party with 5 people there
AC Cheryl: the first clause says you can’t sublet, rent, or allow another to live there
Chief Hatcher: but for visiting
Donna: I’ve been there since 1999
Chief Hatcher: they were raised there
AC Cheryl: need papers to be done to update with the people staying there
I don’t want people who were raised there to be run off
It’s not about the money
Marion: insurance and liability: liability is the onlu issue brought up
Chief Hatcher: what happens if she has a party and someone gets hurt and she doesn’t have insurance?
She can invite people to a party, but she’s liable for it and needs here own insurance and waiver of liability with us
Need simple risk management
I think if she doesn’t have insurance, it comes back on us
They’d need to sign an agreement or property owner is liable
I agree with putting up “no trespassing” signs
I don’t want Jimmy to have to move; he’s been there a long time
We need to do something with the land and have them manage it
Emily: if you had something out there, you need insurance
Responsible agent: if she can’t afford insurance, we pay it
It’s essentially another life estate
We would still need insurance
Emily: why not have them pay a % of it
Chief Hatcher: if someone has an accident on the land in a hole that we didn’t fix, we have to pay
AC Cheryl: Renters insurance would work in this situation
Marion: I could talk to Leeand see how it works with a life estate
We offered to give back the tax money the tribe has paid
We’ve rescued women and children
We care for sick people
Our family and grandkids live there
In the October meeting, we can make a decision once we have a better understanding
Chief Hatcher: if we keep it, we need to do something with it
Chief Hatcher: if we give you “no trespassing” signs, can you put them up?
Jimmy: they’re already up
Chief Hatcher: I want to have ou all taken care of
CoC Susan: Let’s talk by internet
Marion: motion to pay the taxes for this year; Emily seconded
Emily and Marion suggested more discussion via the internet
Our family lives there
My Dad didn’t want us to not have a place to stay
Not sure who said I was trespassing
AC Cheryl: it’s just the legal term that applies to the life estate
Jimmy: yeah, just mother
We’ll give back the money you put into it
Only 2-3 people have been out there
Chief Hatcher: I don’t want you evicted
Two things: we keep the land; you manage it with the goal for tax-exempt status or sell it
Jimmy: you can’t sell it unless you dissolve the tribe
AC Cheryl: if Donna and Jimmy were the property managers, it could change to tax-expemt
Discuss it privately for a win-win
If sold, the life estate could continue
We need to do something and make it tax-exempt
We’ve just got to be careful
Donna: your tribe is important to us
CoC Susan: let’s do it by email
Marion: no one in the tribe has said you have to move people off the land
Marion: the only thing is the liability issue
Chief Hatcher: I think we should give them money for the trip up hre
Jimmy: put that money towards the taxes
Emily-yes, 2C Alan (Chris)-yes, Marion-yes, CoC Susan-yes
Emimly: if a lawyer is needed; we can work it out
Suggest separate cut-offs for each campsite
Marion: he is going to put cut-offs on each valve
We need to get things done quicker
Glenn: all of this happened and I have knee trouble and wasn’t/ couldn’t get up and down
I hadn’t heard from Chris
Glenn: doing the valves could take longer
Reclaiming lands, climate resilience
Additional training and capacity building
It will help get us to larger grants
Historical mapping to be included
Larry: you have to have 4 Elders to vote on anything
Chief Hatcher: our constitution requires 7 Elders
AC Cheryl: are there provisions if there’s not 7?
Chief Hatcher: we’ve run into this before; Judge Bernie said we needed all 7 to make a decision
AC Cheryl: Becky resigned as CoE
Chief Dan retired
2C Alan: what would it cost to add a campground?
Donna: it used to be a campground; a field
2C Alan: how many spots?
CoC Susan: 10-15
Jimmy: the flood tore some down
Chief Hatcher: I disagree
AC Cheryl: if they enter another’s land without an invitation, liability comes into play
Chief Hatcher: example- if there’s a pothole and someone steps into it and breaks their leg, we are liable
AC Cheryl: invite matters
Chief Hatcher: if you have anything blagrantly a trao, you’re still liable
Opinion of the judge and jurors matter
If we keep it, we need to protect ourselves
Donna: yes, as well as Jimmy, grandkids, Gaylen (spelling?)
Chief Hatcher: the only one that matters is Donna
Chief Hatcher: if anyone gets hurt on that land, we’re liable
CoC Susan: Council, what are your thoughts?
Donna: my family has lived there since 1999; I understand Chief Hatcher wants to get out of it because of insurance
Chief Hatcher: have the Elders meet to discuss it
CoC Susan: we need to talk more; discuss it online
CoC Susan: continue the discussion with the Elders and Donna
CoC Susan: the papers say “and their heirs”
AC Cheryl: it’s a conditional life estate, not a will where it transfers
Chief Hatcher: it says Jerry and Donna
CoC Susan: I looked at the deed and it says if the tribe dissolves, the land can go to the heirs
Donna: the Deed of Corrections says “heirs”
The only one who has a right to the land is Donna
AC Cheryl: we need to give them a trespassing notice
No liability by the owner for trespassers
Chief Hatcher: they were raised there
AC Cheryl: it needs to be resolved; they are not legally on the land; need an assumption of liability
AC Cheryl: they are essentially trespassing
Chief Hatcher: I think if someone gets hurt there, we’re liable
Chief Hatcher: example- they have a party with 5 people there
AC Cheryl: the first clause says you can’t sublet, rent, or allow another to live there
Chief Hatcher: but for visiting
Donna: I’ve been there since 1999
Chief Hatcher: they were raised there
AC Cheryl: need papers to be done to update with the people staying there
I don’t want people who were raised there to be run off
It’s not about the money
Marion: insurance and liability: liability is the onlu issue brought up
Chief Hatcher: what happens if she has a party and someone gets hurt and she doesn’t have insurance?
She can invite people to a party, but she’s liable for it and needs here own insurance and waiver of liability with us
Need simple risk management
I think if she doesn’t have insurance, it comes back on us
They’d need to sign an agreement or property owner is liable
I agree with putting up “no trespassing” signs
I don’t want Jimmy to have to move; he’s been there a long time
We need to do something with the land and have them manage it
Emily: if you had something out there, you need insurance
Responsible agent: if she can’t afford insurance, we pay it
It’s essentially another life estate
We would still need insurance
Emily: why not have them pay a % of it
Chief Hatcher: if someone has an accident on the land in a hole that we didn’t fix, we have to pay
AC Cheryl: Renters insurance would work in this situation
Marion: I could talk to Leeand see how it works with a life estate
We offered to give back the tax money the tribe has paid
We’ve rescued women and children
We care for sick people
Our family and grandkids live there
In the October meeting, we can make a decision once we have a better understanding
Chief Hatcher: if we keep it, we need to do something with it
Chief Hatcher: if we give you “no trespassing” signs, can you put them up?
Jimmy: they’re already up
Chief Hatcher: I want to have ou all taken care of
CoC Susan: Let’s talk by internet
Marion: motion to pay the taxes for this year; Emily seconded
Emily and Marion suggested more discussion via the internet
Our family lives there
My Dad didn’t want us to not have a place to stay
Not sure who said I was trespassing
AC Cheryl: it’s just the legal term that applies to the life estate
Jimmy: yeah, just mother
We’ll give back the money you put into it
Only 2-3 people have been out there
Chief Hatcher: I don’t want you evicted
Two things: we keep the land; you manage it with the goal for tax-exempt status or sell it
Jimmy: you can’t sell it unless you dissolve the tribe
AC Cheryl: if Donna and Jimmy were the property managers, it could change to tax-expemt
Discuss it privately for a win-win
If sold, the life estate could continue
We need to do something and make it tax-exempt
We’ve just got to be careful
Donna: your tribe is important to us
CoC Susan: let’s do it by email
Marion: no one in the tribe has said you have to move people off the land
Marion: the only thing is the liability issue
Chief Hatcher: I think we should give them money for the trip up hre
Jimmy: put that money towards the taxes
Emily-yes, 2C Alan (Chris)-yes, Marion-yes, CoC Susan-yes
Emimly: if a lawyer is needed; we can work it out
Suggest separate cut-offs for each campsite
Marion: he is going to put cut-offs on each valve
We need to get things done quicker
Glenn: all of this happened and I have knee trouble and wasn’t/ couldn’t get up and down
I hadn’t heard from Chris
Glenn: doing the valves could take longer
Reclaiming lands, climate resilience
Additional training and capacity building
It will help get us to larger grants
Historical mapping to be included
Larry: you have to have 4 Elders to vote on anything
Chief Hatcher: our constitution requires 7 Elders
AC Cheryl: are there provisions if there’s not 7?
Chief Hatcher: we’ve run into this before; Judge Bernie said we needed all 7 to make a decision
AC Cheryl: Becky resigned as CoE
Chief Dan retired
Glenn: keep; need the right opportunity to come up to develop it
Marion- keep; Lee said we don’t need to worry about insurance, but we need them sign a waiver of liability
Chief Hatcher: I disagree
AC Cheryl: if they enter another’s land without an invitation, liability comes into play
Chief Hatcher: example- if there’s a pothole and someone steps into it and breaks their leg, we are liable
AC Cheryl: invite matters
Chief Hatcher: if you have anything blagrantly a trao, you’re still liable
Opinion of the judge and jurors matter
If we keep it, we need to protect ourselves
Donna: yes, as well as Jimmy, grandkids, Gaylen (spelling?)
Chief Hatcher: the only one that matters is Donna
Chief Hatcher: if anyone gets hurt on that land, we’re liable
CoC Susan: Council, what are your thoughts?
Donna: my family has lived there since 1999; I understand Chief Hatcher wants to get out of it because of insurance
Chief Hatcher: have the Elders meet to discuss it
CoC Susan: we need to talk more; discuss it online
CoC Susan: continue the discussion with the Elders and Donna
CoC Susan: the papers say “and their heirs”
AC Cheryl: it’s a conditional life estate, not a will where it transfers
Chief Hatcher: it says Jerry and Donna
CoC Susan: I looked at the deed and it says if the tribe dissolves, the land can go to the heirs
Donna: the Deed of Corrections says “heirs”
The only one who has a right to the land is Donna
AC Cheryl: we need to give them a trespassing notice
No liability by the owner for trespassers
Chief Hatcher: they were raised there
AC Cheryl: it needs to be resolved; they are not legally on the land; need an assumption of liability
AC Cheryl: they are essentially trespassing
Chief Hatcher: I think if someone gets hurt there, we’re liable
Chief Hatcher: example- they have a party with 5 people there
AC Cheryl: the first clause says you can’t sublet, rent, or allow another to live there
Chief Hatcher: but for visiting
Donna: I’ve been there since 1999
Chief Hatcher: they were raised there
AC Cheryl: need papers to be done to update with the people staying there
I don’t want people who were raised there to be run off
It’s not about the money
Marion: insurance and liability: liability is the onlu issue brought up
Chief Hatcher: what happens if she has a party and someone gets hurt and she doesn’t have insurance?
She can invite people to a party, but she’s liable for it and needs here own insurance and waiver of liability with us
Need simple risk management
I think if she doesn’t have insurance, it comes back on us
They’d need to sign an agreement or property owner is liable
I agree with putting up “no trespassing” signs
I don’t want Jimmy to have to move; he’s been there a long time
We need to do something with the land and have them manage it
Emily: if you had something out there, you need insurance
Responsible agent: if she can’t afford insurance, we pay it
It’s essentially another life estate
We would still need insurance
Emily: why not have them pay a % of it
Chief Hatcher: if someone has an accident on the land in a hole that we didn’t fix, we have to pay
AC Cheryl: Renters insurance would work in this situation
Marion: I could talk to Leeand see how it works with a life estate
We offered to give back the tax money the tribe has paid
We’ve rescued women and children
We care for sick people
Our family and grandkids live there
In the October meeting, we can make a decision once we have a better understanding
Chief Hatcher: if we keep it, we need to do something with it
Chief Hatcher: if we give you “no trespassing” signs, can you put them up?
Jimmy: they’re already up
Chief Hatcher: I want to have ou all taken care of
CoC Susan: Let’s talk by internet
Marion: motion to pay the taxes for this year; Emily seconded
Emily and Marion suggested more discussion via the internet
Our family lives there
My Dad didn’t want us to not have a place to stay
Not sure who said I was trespassing
AC Cheryl: it’s just the legal term that applies to the life estate
Jimmy: yeah, just mother
We’ll give back the money you put into it
Only 2-3 people have been out there
Chief Hatcher: I don’t want you evicted
Two things: we keep the land; you manage it with the goal for tax-exempt status or sell it
Jimmy: you can’t sell it unless you dissolve the tribe
AC Cheryl: if Donna and Jimmy were the property managers, it could change to tax-expemt
Discuss it privately for a win-win
If sold, the life estate could continue
We need to do something and make it tax-exempt
We’ve just got to be careful
Donna: your tribe is important to us
CoC Susan: let’s do it by email
Marion: no one in the tribe has said you have to move people off the land
Marion: the only thing is the liability issue
Chief Hatcher: I think we should give them money for the trip up hre
Jimmy: put that money towards the taxes
Emily-yes, 2C Alan (Chris)-yes, Marion-yes, CoC Susan-yes
Emimly: if a lawyer is needed; we can work it out
Suggest separate cut-offs for each campsite
Marion: he is going to put cut-offs on each valve
We need to get things done quicker
Glenn: all of this happened and I have knee trouble and wasn’t/ couldn’t get up and down
I hadn’t heard from Chris
Glenn: doing the valves could take longer
Reclaiming lands, climate resilience
Additional training and capacity building
It will help get us to larger grants
Historical mapping to be included
Larry: you have to have 4 Elders to vote on anything
Chief Hatcher: our constitution requires 7 Elders
AC Cheryl: are there provisions if there’s not 7?
Chief Hatcher: we’ve run into this before; Judge Bernie said we needed all 7 to make a decision
AC Cheryl: Becky resigned as CoE
Chief Dan retired
CoC Susan: Donna lives out there
Donna: yes, as well as Jimmy, grandkids, Gaylen (spelling?)
Chief Hatcher: the only one that matters is Donna
Chief Hatcher: if anyone gets hurt on that land, we’re liable
CoC Susan: Council, what are your thoughts?
Donna: my family has lived there since 1999; I understand Chief Hatcher wants to get out of it because of insurance
Chief Hatcher: have the Elders meet to discuss it
CoC Susan: we need to talk more; discuss it online
CoC Susan: continue the discussion with the Elders and Donna
CoC Susan: the papers say “and their heirs”
AC Cheryl: it’s a conditional life estate, not a will where it transfers
Chief Hatcher: it says Jerry and Donna
CoC Susan: I looked at the deed and it says if the tribe dissolves, the land can go to the heirs
Donna: the Deed of Corrections says “heirs”
The only one who has a right to the land is Donna
AC Cheryl: we need to give them a trespassing notice
No liability by the owner for trespassers
Chief Hatcher: they were raised there
AC Cheryl: it needs to be resolved; they are not legally on the land; need an assumption of liability
AC Cheryl: they are essentially trespassing
Chief Hatcher: I think if someone gets hurt there, we’re liable
Chief Hatcher: example- they have a party with 5 people there
AC Cheryl: the first clause says you can’t sublet, rent, or allow another to live there
Chief Hatcher: but for visiting
Donna: I’ve been there since 1999
Chief Hatcher: they were raised there
AC Cheryl: need papers to be done to update with the people staying there
I don’t want people who were raised there to be run off
It’s not about the money
Marion: insurance and liability: liability is the onlu issue brought up
Chief Hatcher: what happens if she has a party and someone gets hurt and she doesn’t have insurance?
She can invite people to a party, but she’s liable for it and needs here own insurance and waiver of liability with us
Need simple risk management
I think if she doesn’t have insurance, it comes back on us
They’d need to sign an agreement or property owner is liable
I agree with putting up “no trespassing” signs
I don’t want Jimmy to have to move; he’s been there a long time
We need to do something with the land and have them manage it
Emily: if you had something out there, you need insurance
Responsible agent: if she can’t afford insurance, we pay it
It’s essentially another life estate
We would still need insurance
Emily: why not have them pay a % of it
Chief Hatcher: if someone has an accident on the land in a hole that we didn’t fix, we have to pay
AC Cheryl: Renters insurance would work in this situation
Marion: I could talk to Leeand see how it works with a life estate
We offered to give back the tax money the tribe has paid
We’ve rescued women and children
We care for sick people
Our family and grandkids live there
In the October meeting, we can make a decision once we have a better understanding
Chief Hatcher: if we keep it, we need to do something with it
Chief Hatcher: if we give you “no trespassing” signs, can you put them up?
Jimmy: they’re already up
Chief Hatcher: I want to have ou all taken care of
CoC Susan: Let’s talk by internet
Marion: motion to pay the taxes for this year; Emily seconded
Emily and Marion suggested more discussion via the internet
Our family lives there
My Dad didn’t want us to not have a place to stay
Not sure who said I was trespassing
AC Cheryl: it’s just the legal term that applies to the life estate
Jimmy: yeah, just mother
We’ll give back the money you put into it
Only 2-3 people have been out there
Chief Hatcher: I don’t want you evicted
Two things: we keep the land; you manage it with the goal for tax-exempt status or sell it
Jimmy: you can’t sell it unless you dissolve the tribe
AC Cheryl: if Donna and Jimmy were the property managers, it could change to tax-expemt
Discuss it privately for a win-win
If sold, the life estate could continue
We need to do something and make it tax-exempt
We’ve just got to be careful
Donna: your tribe is important to us
CoC Susan: let’s do it by email
Marion: no one in the tribe has said you have to move people off the land
Marion: the only thing is the liability issue
Chief Hatcher: I think we should give them money for the trip up hre
Jimmy: put that money towards the taxes
Emily-yes, 2C Alan (Chris)-yes, Marion-yes, CoC Susan-yes
Emimly: if a lawyer is needed; we can work it out
Suggest separate cut-offs for each campsite
Marion: he is going to put cut-offs on each valve
We need to get things done quicker
Glenn: all of this happened and I have knee trouble and wasn’t/ couldn’t get up and down
I hadn’t heard from Chris
Glenn: doing the valves could take longer
Reclaiming lands, climate resilience
Additional training and capacity building
It will help get us to larger grants
Historical mapping to be included
Larry: you have to have 4 Elders to vote on anything
Chief Hatcher: our constitution requires 7 Elders
AC Cheryl: are there provisions if there’s not 7?
Chief Hatcher: we’ve run into this before; Judge Bernie said we needed all 7 to make a decision
AC Cheryl: Becky resigned as CoE
Chief Dan retired
Brookgreen Gardens: CoC Susan
10/24, CoC Susan, AC Cheryl, Chief Hatcher, Ronnie F will be doing demonstrations
We need to give a quick blurb about what we’re doing and have pictures taken
New Business
Fuel Receipts
$60.78
Check 1079 for 60.78 from B&G fund
Committee Reports
Buildings & Grounds: Glenn
Working on the water
2C Alan: Chris said the guy is supposed to be out here or tomorrow or Monday to start
CoC Susan: I don’t know if the water is more expensive because people come out here and use it
Suggest separate cut-offs for each campsite
Marion: he is going to put cut-offs on each valve
We need to get things done quicker
Glenn: all of this happened and I have knee trouble and wasn’t/ couldn’t get up and down
I hadn’t heard from Chris
Glenn: doing the valves could take longer
Reclaiming lands, climate resilience
Additional training and capacity building
It will help get us to larger grants
Historical mapping to be included
Larry: you have to have 4 Elders to vote on anything
Chief Hatcher: our constitution requires 7 Elders
AC Cheryl: are there provisions if there’s not 7?
Chief Hatcher: we’ve run into this before; Judge Bernie said we needed all 7 to make a decision
AC Cheryl: Becky resigned as CoE
Chief Dan retired
Marion: we’re not getting any younger; if you can’t complete a project, bring it to Tribal Council
I can’t physically do what I use to; Glenn can’t either
We need to get things done quicker
Glenn: all of this happened and I have knee trouble and wasn’t/ couldn’t get up and down
I hadn’t heard from Chris
Glenn: doing the valves could take longer
Reclaiming lands, climate resilience
Additional training and capacity building
It will help get us to larger grants
Historical mapping to be included
Larry: you have to have 4 Elders to vote on anything
Chief Hatcher: our constitution requires 7 Elders
AC Cheryl: are there provisions if there’s not 7?
Chief Hatcher: we’ve run into this before; Judge Bernie said we needed all 7 to make a decision
AC Cheryl: Becky resigned as CoE
Chief Dan retired
Marion: the work should be completed by Monday
Glenn: doing the valves could take longer
Reclaiming lands, climate resilience
Additional training and capacity building
It will help get us to larger grants
Historical mapping to be included
Larry: you have to have 4 Elders to vote on anything
Chief Hatcher: our constitution requires 7 Elders
AC Cheryl: are there provisions if there’s not 7?
Chief Hatcher: we’ve run into this before; Judge Bernie said we needed all 7 to make a decision
AC Cheryl: Becky resigned as CoE
Chief Dan retired
Arts & Crafts: Carol
Trying to get my certification
Grants: AC Cheryl
Justice Outside: papers have been signed; $20k to the grants account probably next week
Catalyst Grant: $25k over 2 years
Goal: workshop to bring leaders together with nonprofit conservation organizations
Reclaiming lands, climate resilience
Additional training and capacity building
It will help get us to larger grants
Historical mapping to be included
Larry: you have to have 4 Elders to vote on anything
Chief Hatcher: our constitution requires 7 Elders
AC Cheryl: are there provisions if there’s not 7?
Chief Hatcher: we’ve run into this before; Judge Bernie said we needed all 7 to make a decision
AC Cheryl: Becky resigned as CoE
Chief Dan retired
I meet with Jason after pauwau and we submit in March
Historical mapping to be included
Larry: you have to have 4 Elders to vote on anything
Chief Hatcher: our constitution requires 7 Elders
AC Cheryl: are there provisions if there’s not 7?
Chief Hatcher: we’ve run into this before; Judge Bernie said we needed all 7 to make a decision
AC Cheryl: Becky resigned as CoE
Chief Dan retired
Newsletter
It will include the last newsletter and the September one combined
Pauwau
Looking for new stories of local cultural history
Looking for pictures of traditional suks and regalia
Need to look for children advocates to help bring more children to grounds
CoC Susan: getting a lot of carnival food trucks, but we’re probably only taking 1-2 because they’ve been here before
I received an application from a woman who sells butterflies
FB page has events listed and we’re getting weird requests
Glenn: RV forms
CoC Susan: I haven’t seen any come in
CoC Susan: I’m faxing all schools; I can’t send them emails because it goes to spam
We could embed the information instead of attaching
Marion: send it to the schools and the scouts
CoC Susan: we had to refund one vendor; they had a blowout on their truck and lost their items to the fire
Drum
People are lined up for School Day
Archiving Project: Rebecca
Tracking temperature and humidit yon storage
Finding Aide to have an index of physical items
Files
2C Alan: Lisa L (honorary to full)
Longhouse
Dr. Dilliam has items for the longhouse
Reminder: Fire Ceremonies for 2024: 9/21 and 12/14
Dr. Sara
Educational Task Force Meeting at the end of the month
Email Sara R or Rebecca F for the meeting
Prescribed Burning
Analyzing tree rings
Big cross-sections of longleaf at Santee now in UNC-Wilmington to be analyzed
We can get some for our display
Next stage of funding
Training for prescribed fire training officers
On 10/23, there is a conference in Horry County
Jennifer R: I work with the Lumbee Cultural Burn Association; it’s a really cool process
With Kevin Melvin and Larry Chavis
I also work at UNC-Pembroke
AC Cheryl
on the 9/17 grant deadline, one item I’d like to include/ bring up at the Council of Chiefs meeting, it would be good for us to have at least 1 officer
Jennifer R: Marion, are you certified
Marion: no
CoC Susan: we need to see how any would like to take part in that
Jennifer R: initial training, step towards sovereignty and reclamation
Restoring landscapes in small steps
Marion: the signing date, is that 9/14?
AC Cheryl: not sure; need to get in touch with Chief Harris
Second Chiefs
2C Scott and 2C Alan have nothing further
CoC Susan: Aynor Parade on 9/21: they want someone to ride in the cab
Maybe Jeanie?
Glenn: Jeanie volunteered last year and Chris went last year
Chief Hatcher: Jeanie didn’t make it last year
CoC Susan: MOAAA Stand Down: need someone to take the lead on thiat
It helps veterans
2C Alan: timeframe?
CoC Susan: I’m not sure
2C Alan: I’ll do it; act as the liason
Chief Hatcher had nothing further to add
AC Cheryl: Canva account: free to create branding
Rebecca and Jennifer have been sent invites
Dr. Clary has been really good at using the program
Elders
Larry: I’d like to bring up Randy W again
Chief Hatcher: you need an Elder and another council member
AC Cheryl: may be better for Randy to sit on Council, get experience before moving to Elder
2C Alan: I think that was the issue last time
CoC Susan: we don’t have 7 council members, but it’s not mandated
Larry: you have to have 4 Elders to vote on anything
Chief Hatcher: our constitution requires 7 Elders
AC Cheryl: are there provisions if there’s not 7?
Chief Hatcher: we’ve run into this before; Judge Bernie said we needed all 7 to make a decision
AC Cheryl: Becky resigned as CoE
Chief Dan retired
CoC Susan: Lisa L (honorary to full)
Emily-yes, Marion-yes, 2C Alan (Chris)-yes, Robert-yes, CoC Susan-yes
AC Cheryl: no files committee meeting tomorrow
Glenn: want to re-emphasize about the land- I spent time with Jerry and Jerry
4 years ago, no others were living on the land
No one was there to mow the grass
Other houses were not liveable
AC Cheryl: the reality is if Jerry wanted it passed to family, he would have done that
The concern is is we hand it back over, it could be seen as selling the land
Marion: it was only a few years ago that he asked us to pay the taxes and wanted us to have the land
Elder Larry: hold on to the land
2C Alan: a business wouldn’t care; they’d kick them off
AC Cheryl: we need a business plan and funding
CoC Susan: Reminder: Ribbon-cutting on 9/20 and Fire Ceremony on 9/21
Marion motioned to close the meeting; 2C Alan seconded.
Emily-yes, Marion-yes, 2C Alan (Chris)-yes, Robert-yes, CoC Susan-yes
The meeting adjourned at 8:58 p.m.
Respectfully submitted by Michelle Hatcher on 9/25/2024 at 10:18 pm.
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